Kara Swisher Prefers Working with Sam Altman Over Mark Zuckerberg

Kara Swisher is a prime example of a multi-hyphenate: a podcast host, journalist, author, and CEO challenger.
In her unique way, Swisher has made IDGAF part of her brand identity. Well-connected and unafraid to tackle tough topics, she prioritizes authenticity over approval. As she remarked at a recent live event, “I have four kids!”
As the host of On With Kara Swisher, her bi-weekly podcast for Vox Media, she challenges tech and political leaders to disclose insights they wouldn’t typically share elsewhere. For Pivot, her Vox show alongside New York University professor Scott Galloway, she maintains the lively exchange but isn’t shy about expressing her views. Swisher’s opinions are distinctly her own, and she voices them without hesitation.
Swisher brought her extensive insights to this week’s edition of The Big Interview, diving deeply into AI, Silicon Valley’s ties with President Donald Trump, and revealing her least favorite tech CEO.
This interview has been edited for length and clarity.
KATIE DRUMMOND: Kara Swisher, welcome to The Big Interview. Thank you for being here.
KARA SWISHER: Thank you. I wish I could be in-person at your lovely studio.
Next time.
Who’s that behind you?
Actually, nobody listening to this can see it, but it’s a huge version of the WIRED cover featuring Edward Snowden.
Oh, yes. Look at him.
One of our reporters, Andy Greenberg, had this in his house for years, and then decided, “My wife wants this out of the house. Can I bring it to the office?” And I agreed. So now it’s behind me while I record this podcast.
I had a great interview with him long ago.
He’s still making waves.
Yes, indeed.
We like to kick off with some rapid-fire questions. I assume you’re accustomed to this format. Ready?
Absolutely.
Alright. Most active text thread you participate in.
Definitely with my kids.
Podcasts or Substacks?
What do you mean? Are you asking if I listen?
Choose one.
Podcasts.
I guessed as much.
Of course.
The tech executive you would dread getting stuck in an elevator with.
Oh boy. All of them. Um, Mark Zuckerberg.
More disruptive: AI or social media?
Social media.
